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C-MARC RCA unbalanced signal cable, stereo pair; Firewall Module; Echo's End; Bindbreaker; C-MARC XLR balanced signal cable, stereo pair; C-MARC Classic Loudspeaker Cable, stereo pair; C-MARC Classic Power Cable; C-MARC bulk wire and cable
Echo's End
Louis, your DAC is totally amazing and I'm finally at a point where my digital is extremely enjoyable to listen to. You never cease to amaze me with the quality of your products and how much better your technology is than most of the other high end offerings.
Thanks for your genius and time.
Echo's End
The Reference was introduced and I took the opportunity and pre-ordered it with the trading in of the Echo’s End original DAC. I thought to myself, what am I doing here, purchasing a DAC that is now the most expensive part of my system, am I insane?
Yesterday I unpacked the box. The DAC has the same size as the Echo’s End original, it made me wonder how all the parts can fit in this small box. And the Reference is heavy! With the Panzerholz case it is maybe four times the weight of the Echo’s End original, my impression when I changed the DACs.
I listened to six tracks from different CDs with the Echo’s End and replayed them in the same order with the Reference DAC without warming up or, hmm... run in for several hours.
Normally I don’t like to mention different CDs or files of music in my findings, as the reader may have never heard of some titles, and I’m not the one who's listening to „Audiophile“ tracks by Diana Krall, Norah Jones and the likes that are maybe well known to a wider audience. I got to move away then, sorry. But to do this DAC justice, I will note the titles of some tracks of CDs and try to point out short the differences.
First one that I tried was Sting - The Snow It melts The Soonest from "If On A Winters Night…“ His voice came through with much more ease, the voice clearer than before with a wonderful natural tone.
John Zorn - Novato from „ Alhambra Love Songs“ - Jazz. The piano on this track is so much more accentuated, bigger and unbelievable lifelike. It sounded not as a reproduction of sound, I got the feeling as if the piano is played in the listening room.
The Comsat Angels - Now I Know from „After The Rain“ - Indie Rock. I never hear this track that good. The CD outperformed the same track of the 7“ record or from the vinyl LP. The sound was much more detached from the speakers, the overall appearance is much more worked out with lots more details.
Mirel Wagner - To The Bone from S/T - Singer/Songwriter. Only guitar and voice. The subtle, fragile voice and the guitar come through in such a realistic way, it is as if she is sitting in front of me, playing live only one meter away.
Bohren & Der Club Of Gore - Darkstalker from „Sunset Mission“ - Doom Jazz. A track that's nice, dark and frightening all together with these deep vibrant bass in the background. The bass is filling the whole room, you can drown in it. I never had a feeling like this before when listening to this track.
Joseph Martin Kraus - Allegro Assai, Symphony in C-minor from „Four Symphonies“ Concerto Köln - Classical. What stands out here is the overall improvement in dynamics and clarity.
Martini Brös. - Electric Monk from „Play“ - Electronica. I liked only two tracks on this CD and it sounded excellent in the past. With the Reference DAC I notice now razor-sharp synth tones are and the voice filling the complete room. A big improvement.
Tiamat - Dust Is Our Fare from „Skeleton Skeletron“ - Metal. Before changing the DAC the music was somehow tacked between the speakers and were stuck to it. It sounded sort of flat. But that changed completely. Again, the sound uncoupled from the speakers, filling the room. I never thought that it could get that good.
Dub Spencer & Trance Hill - 103rd Street Boys - from "William S. Burroughs in Dub“ - Dub Reggae. A favourite of mine for a longer time. This recording sounds simply excellent. With the Reference DAC the music shifts to a whole new level, gobsmacked by a mass of new details to discover. Same as before here, room filling sound, wow!
Paul Leonard-Morgan - She’s A Pass + Mega City One - O.S.T from „Dredd“. I liked this O.S.T a lot with the title theme that is repeated in different forms here. But I never really connected to the music. With the Reference DAC it blew me away! The deep bass that sounds like a tone from a vinyl test record bolted me to to the sofa. The whole sound is thrown at me. Totally fascinating.
Front 242 - Headhunter from „Front by Front“ E.B.M. Here the CD sounded never as good as the 12“ 45rpm with the same title. And now? The CD outperformed the record.
So now I mentioned also a few tracks that I heard today, not yesterday. The DAC ran silently the whole night for eight hours until I listened further. It improved again.
I don’t believe that the Reference DAC could show its complete potential in my rig, because of some possible limitations with the rest of my gear.
But I feel lucky with the really great improvement. You may have read the somehow cryptical review at Six Moons. It was criticized that the Reference DAC comes without footers. I don’t have a problem with that. Mostly everyone purchasing Audio gear has his own preferred foot or spikes to use. I find it positive that there are no feet attached that are maybe in the way when the customer wants to use his own ones. It is also looking funny, when the item sits on three or four footers/spikes and the other ones that came solidly installed are hanging uselessly in the air.
If I understand this right, the writer marginalized the differences in reproduction of modern DACs and that he gets somehow bored. With all those gear running through your hands all the time, maybe it gets frustrating with time? How could I know, I don’t have other DACs in my home within this price class or above to compare the Reference with, but to the Echo’s End this new DAC makes a gigantic performance shift.
If we say that Vinyl replay is on the black side and digital on the white, the Reference DAC moved completely to the black side. Yes, it really sounds analog in the best way possible and beyond, please give it a listen. It’s an amazing DAC!
Thanks so much, I'm now one happy owner. I haven’t thought that such a difference is possible.
Excellent job, LessLoss, you've done it again.
Echo's End
I am thankful that the Echo's End has a sturdy carrying case, so that I can take my Echo's End with me when I travel. Was the inclusion of the sturdy case for the Echo's end part of LessLoss' plan not only to protect the Echo's End during shipment, but also to enable people to take their Echo's End with them when they travel between home and work, or relative's house? Brilliant plan LessLoss!
Echo's End
IN THE MIDST OF UPGRADING TO LESSLOSS DFPC CABLES, THE 5X FIREWALLS, THE USB FIREWALL KEYS, I RECEIVED NOTICE OF A NEW PRODUCT FROM LESSLOSS. IT WAS A LADDER DAC: ECHO'S END. WITH THEIR RECORD OF SUCCESS WITH ME, AND THE 30-DAY RIGHT OF RETURN, I HAD TO "GIVE IT A SHOT."
I HAVE HAD SOME MARVELOUS DACS IN MY SYSTEM IN RECENT YEARS. IN RETROSPECT, HAVING EXPERIENCED THE ECHO'S END, I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT ALTHOUGH THEIR SOUND WAS VERY CONVINCING, THERE WAS A NATURALNESS, A YOU ARE REALLY THERE OPENNESS QUALITY TO THE ECHO'S END THAT NONE OF THE OTHERS OFFERED. OF COURSE I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN THIS IF I HADN'T EXPERIENCED THE ECHO'S END. IT IS NOT THAT THIS DAC WILL HIT YOU ON YOUR HEAD. IT IS MORE SUBTLE THAN THAT. IT IS MORE LIKE BEING IN THE LOBBY OF THE HALL WHERE THE ORCHESTRA IS PERFORMING, AND YOU OPEN THE DOOR AND ENTER THE AUDITORIUM. YOU ARE SUDDENLY ENVELOPED BY THE SOUND OF THE PERFORMANCE. TRULY, IT IS THAT CONVINCING. I AM CERTAIN WE ALL HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS LAST EXAMPLE SO I BELIEVE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTY IN FINDING THE RIGHT WORDS TO DESCRIBE THE EXPERIENCE. THAT IS MY TAKE ON THE ECHO'S END. IT IS EASILY BECOMING A GOOD FRIEND!
Echo's End
With my 50th birthday present from my kind wife Jane arriving in early August, but my birthday not being until 26th September, I waited patiently and did not even sneak a peak at the Echo’s End.
The new DAC replaces a Musical Fidelity Tri Vista which has served me well over the years. The source starts with Tidal through an iPhone 6, Wadia 170i with Audiocom level 3 mods and a Teddy Pardo power supply.
I am well aware from owning LessLoss power cords that the sound benefits substantially from a long burn in. However, I had waited long enough.
On first connecting the Echo’s End, I could immediately hear greater breadth, detail, separation and rhythm although with an evident harshness to the sound. Within an hour of listening the harshness had largely disappeared. With a further week of 24/7 burn in the sound can only be described as being incredibly musical. Particular highlights for me have been the dramatic reduction in sibilance, the musicality at every level and the way in which it draws listeners in. Everything becomes more distinct. Instruments and voices are separated from each other. The layers in the music are unravelled.
Also worthy of mention is that the wood case is aesthetically very pleasing. I now have a box of electronics to visually match my Sonus Faber Electa Amator speakers. Finally, it may come as a surprise to some, but lower quality source material such as BBC iplayer radio is now pleasing to listen to. OK, I am not getting the full experience described above with the iplayer, but the Echo’s End makes a huge difference in quality, removing most of the harshness.
The bottom line is that there has been a steep change in our musical enjoyment since the Echo’s End arrived. Jane even called me at work one day to ask me how to turn the HiFi on!
Thank you Jane and thank you Louis.
Firewall Module; DFPC Series; Echo's End
Echo's End
Till now I haven't had the itch to take it out of my system.
Just good stuff!
Best,
Victor Sierra
Echo's End
Let me see if I can communicate this better. Let’s say that you are attending a full orchestral concert. You have ideal seating. Before the concert begins, you get up to answer nature’s call. Upon returning, the concert has begun. As you enter the auditorium you are immediately enveloped in the full alive acoustical environment. This instant immersion is not something one generally experiences with an audio system. That is the precise experience my friend and I experienced. We experienced absolutely no impediment or restriction to the flow of the music. In my imagination I visualized the flow of music coming down the wires totally free of any impediment. There was a sense of openness, clarity, cohesiveness of the entire assembladge of the musicians. The dynamics seemed unlimited.
As we continued our initial listening session with different kinds of music we were continually impressed with the naturalness of the sound with no limitation on our sense of space or volume. I feel that the speed of reproduction of musical attacks where speed is a component of the realness of the live presentation, our intuition accepts this as live. Add to that the absolute “blackness” of the surrounding space, the performance is almost three dimensional. It is amazing how the naturalness of the presentation engenders a relaxed state of mind in the listener.
The balance of the musical spectrum presented is remarkably natural. Nothing beyond the music commands your attention. Focusing on the music as a means of communication, the ease and naturalness of the performance can move you in ways you may not have experienced before.
Listening to voice is an interesting experience. We all have experienced sibilants which we automatically find annoying. However, with the Echo’s End, sibilants that were in the recording came through so naturally that it rarely distracted the listener. This is not to say that the Echo’s End presents the playback as soft or sweet or unbalanced. On the contrary, its presentation is as fast and accurate, and dynamic as “live.” The presentation of the voice clearly involves all parts of the singer’s anatomy that is involved in creating the sound. So convincing is it that frequently listeners sense the performer may be looking their way and immediately shy smiles breakout across their face.
I guess I have to mention the extended range of the musical spectrum. Deep and driving bass was crisp, sharp, and dynamic and clearly presented without any sense of “mushiness.” If the music, and conductor calls for it, it can blow you out of your chair. The extended upper register comes across as smooth and liquid as one could want. What is so wonderful about the range of Echo’s End’s presentation is how balanced it is as the music flows across it’s entire spectrum. There will be no “screwing-up the face” in anticipation of unpleasant hard high register attacks.
The piano notes struck appeared with an amazing speed and power. One could not ignore the obvious speed and expanded dynamics of each chorus of instruments and each note or string of notes struck on the piano. The subtlety of the percussion from the rear of the stage though playing at the same time as the other instruments had no difficulty making itself heard in surprising detail. Here is an interesting observation: sibilants from male or female voices on all prior DACs formerly in my system could be annoying.
But with the ECHO’S END in place, the sibilants were there, but natural, open and unfocused, and no longer annoying. Deep bass was crisp and driving without a trace of looseness or excessive rumble. Also, there was an amazing balance between the full upper audio range with the full lower range. No preference was evident in the middle range. Another accurate description of the sound is relaxing and so natural and non-tiring.
I believe you may want to know the kind of DAC this “Little Wooden Jewel” replaced. It was a Swiss made $24,000 truly wonderful DAC that did not have the overall “magic” of the Echo’s End. I have enjoyed it for the past 7 months. It will shortly be offered for sale.
I’m sorry this has taken too long to compose and likely too long to read. But my Echo’s End awaits and I must return.
Arthur Ross
Westport, CT, USA
Echo's End
I am using the Echo's End to convert Hauptwerk pipe organ digital samples in my computer to analogue signals for stereo system playback. I control the Hauptwerk program real time by MIDI from a digital pipe organ console. With the Echo's End the pipe organ reverb tails are smooth and fully developed, more accurate and precise than with my previous DAC. In my system the Echo's End is able to adeptly deal with complex combinations of pipes with clarity, weight and authority. Even when playing full chords and intricate passages with all stops engaged the sound is clean, articulate and controlled. With the Echo's End it is easier to distinguish wood pipes from metal pipes and discern their unique voicings. The entire frequency range of the organ is presented beautifully without any perceived bumps or dips or unnatural colorations. I am particularly impressed with the purity of the deep bass of the pedal notes. Not only are the fundamental tones well expressed, but also the associated harmonics and subtle nuances of moving air -- the things you feel as well as hear. Overall, compared to my previous DAC (which had a Stereophile "highest recommendation"), I find the sound of the Echo's End to be more realistic, more engaging, and tonally and spatially more revealing.
The Echo's End has exceeded my expectations. I could not be happier with the results. Thank you for developing and making available this product.
Joseph L G, Los Angeles
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